"So, whats the point? WHAT IS, is as it is...meaning body/minds living life quite naturally and spontaneously based on the previous conditioning. It doesn't matter how it unfolds, for it unfolds before the eyes of God, or Self, the Creator, but not "for" anybody. SELF, this Intelligence, or Creator is never born and never dies. IT witnesses WHAT IS; a bundle of random thoughts, feelings, urges, nothing personal, because....no body is home.
That is why it is said, "YOU were never born and will never die." You as a person, as an incarnated somebody never existed! That "somebody" is the lie. the big lie that keeps the wheels of self importance, of life's significance, turning.
Several times in the talk with Scott, the phrase "it doesn't matter" was repeated. Perhaps "it doesn't matter" because what you once thought of as "your" life is seen as all smoke and mirrors anyway. A major magic show, with only One Magician, and it ain't personal!
When the Light of an unusual nature was detected, it seems like all desire for anything to be other than it is, just dropped away. When this insane desire for something to be other than it ALREADY is, falls away, then..."it doesn't matter" - seems to take its place across the board, without exception.
Having repeated all these meaningless words...does it feel like there is "somebody home" still...but" it doesn't matter?" The favorite foods are eaten, the favorite music is listened to, but "it doesn't matter?"
Why ask? Because some sort of awakening has occurred unbeknown to the thinking mechanism, its just a little confusing. Another way of saying this, I know what was repeated is WHAT IS, yet there is this sense of "bewilderment" to the persona.
Thanks."
There is no point to be had because there is nobody for a point to be pointed to. If a point does exist (which none does exist) it would be the nature of existence itself. It needs no point. A flower needs no purpose to bloom, but the fact that it does is beautiful, yet is not known to itself as beauty, it doesn't question, it just does what it is naturally conditioned to do, which involves no doing, just being. Being a flower, actions occur based on the nature of unfoldment but it's not doing anything, it is only being, being itself as a flower. Every detail of life blooms this way. Humans are no different, except for thought. It seems the labels/ names/ words/ thoughts/ etc... give rise to an illusion of duality.
It seems words create the illusion of things and the biggest lie (as you pointed out) is that humans are one of many separate things, hence individuals. In order to be an individual you have to be separate. In order to be separate you' have to have the free will to control your choices. Of course nothing else in the universe thinks itself as a free will being with choice because nothing else in the universe uses words to form thoughts and therefore see duality.
It is just the thoughts referring to themselves as another thing. "I thought this" is believed as an I actually being there. Every 'I thought' turns into an individual I that does something. There is no I, it's just thought pointing to itself as an I. If there was someone in there thinking, then that thinker would have control over the thoughts. I would imagine that one would think positive 100% of the time or stop thoughts all together and be in an permanent meditative state where nothing bothers you (sense the you would always be seen through). But it's not like that. Thought arise based on the unfolding environment.
The solution to every so-called problem is simple but the I has to mentally die. Here if the thought arose "That hurts me" it is seen that the me is in question. Who is it that is being hurt? It seems it is just a thought pointing to a nonexistent me. Sure hurt arise but it doesn't hurt me, I am just aware of hurt arising. It doesn't affect or hurt anyone certain. It is just thought that seems to be pointing to a someone and an emotion arises after that thought because the thought seems to be a someone. When someone is hurt, emotion is a natural unfolding that comes after a thought of a someone (you) hurting. It makes it even more personal when the same situation happens to 'someone else' and no emotion arises (unless you put 'yourself' in 'their' situation, that is the only way it can be 'real for you'). Therefore the conclusion is that there is an individual here experiencing things because emotions and feelings are grabbed by the I-thought when a thought points to an I-thought.
From here once the thoughts were seen through, 80% of the emotions died, so thoughts were seen as static and not connecting to anything. It's the emotions just after the thoughts that make the thoughts seem to point to something real. That and habit. It is so conditional/habitual to think of self being there, even when no thought is pointing to a self. It's a belief. Beliefs require no evidence to be real. As long as a belief is there, the self will be there even when the self is obviously not there.
For example, in a situation where your life is on the line or somebody else life. Naturally the body/mind knows exactly what to do in an instance. People call this intuition or instincts or many other labels, but the point is that there were no thoughts thinking what to do, there was no time for that. The body/mind just did with an obviousness of no doer. It is only latter (after the fact) that the I comes in "If I would have turn the steering-wheel even slightly more, I would have lost control!" but it's just a thought of an I that seems to be pointing to a doer that did something.
It is believed that there is a thinker in there that is doing things but these body/mind's need no thought in order to do things. Doing takes place naturally by the human being. Just being human, the being does by being what it is. For example, when doing dishes, it doesn't need to think "Now I am putting the dish in the sink. Now I am washing the dish." etc... because the thinker is not doing the doing. Sometimes action follows thought but it is not as common as some would believe it is. The thinker is not the doer because nobody is doing the thinking.
There is an obviousness awareness or consciousness here and it is aware of a body/mind thinking but that is all it is ever doing is being aware, it has no other ability. As a way of speaking, one could say that the body/mind is on the screen of awareness. Everything is on top of awareness. Awareness comes first and everything else happens because that awareness is there. Everything that seems to happen is happening because there is something of aware of it happening and it takes place only because that awareness is there. Take away awareness everything else fails to be because there is nothing else (of course the label of awareness can be replaced with any other word because the word doesn't actual capture what it is since it's not a label) . That awareness was never born and will never die because it has always been. It is not the 5 senses from the body/mind that gives rise to an awareness through those senses, it is the awareness that is forever here, that was here first, that naturally and mysteriously became aware of a body/mind.
Therefore it matters not the unfoldment of this body/minds life because its finite fate is already without question. How can something so finite posses something significant in an individual sense? Only to the human that has not accepted its finite fate can the question of significance arise. It wants to know why it is here because it believes there is someone here in there. There is nobody there, just an awareness of something being here. That something that is aware is a mystery that can never be solved. It doesn't need this life to be what it is, it doesn't need anything to be aware and that is all it can do; is be aware. Humans are only conditioned to want an significant existence because they are conditioned to believe that everything else (as things) have meaning.
This search for a purpose all started when labels/words were taught. This weird, oddly shaped, clear thing is" bottle" and it holds the good stuff that you want. This oddly shaped thing with noodles hanging off a blob of a body that nurtures you is "mommy". If you want "bottle" you must say BOTTLE, if you want mommy YOU must say mommy. Mommy and bottle are different things to YOU. Just learn two words and three separate things seem to arise; bottle, mommy, and you. Bottle has a purpose, it holds the good tasting milk. Mommy has a purpose she takes care of you. As more words are learned, a conditioned it taught that everything is a thing and every thing has a purpose. So when people hit a certain age, everything is seen to hold a purpose for YOU but what is YOUR purpose?
Since nothing points to an actual you and nothing is seen to be there except an awareness that cannot be defined with any quality's, there is nothing being aware of whatever this is. Since this awareness/nothing can't define itself, how can it define anything else with any certainty? If this awareness doesn't know what it is, how can it know what anything else is? Most importantly, since there is nobody there, what does it matter what seems to happen here? Is this going to matter to you in 100 years? Maybe it will matter to your child, but is it going to matter to your child in 100 years? Everything is so finite and never lasts. It's like a blink in the eye compared to the infiniteness that you are. If anything this life is an enjoyment because it pushes away the infiniteness that you are. With the infinite in the background, the finite seems to matter, but for how long will it matter? When the infinite that you are is clearly seen, the finite becomes enjoyable because it stops mattering. It's such a limited split second compared to the forever witnessing observing awareness that you are.
It doesn't matter because there is nobody there for it to matter to. Just an inescapable awareness that is always there and yet never knowing why or how it is here, just that it is and has always been never-changing and always-presently there witnessing whatever it is that is here. Fully knowing that what it is witnessing will change, always-changing and yet it remains always-presently witnessing change.
Desires arise but they are momentary change that arise for nobody. Like the imagining of a child, desires arising have nothing to do with what is here presently, but that is all they are, just fantasy dreamed by uncontrollable thought. Any ideas of a nonexistence past or future is just presently happening for nobody except empty thought. Thought contains nothing because it never points to anything solid. Just like "I" doesn't really point to an individual I, every other word doesn't really point to a thing as being that. A tree for example, is just something in the environment that we labeled tree for the purpose of communication but communication itself holds no purpose except momentary convenience. But nobody did, it naturally, spontaneously, and automatically occurred. Like love, it needs has no reason, meaning, or purpose; it just happens without warning, logic, or rational thought. Nobody does love, love unfolds naturally on its own.
Sometimes it feels like there is someone home but it is momentary and always changing. There is no control as to what will be felt or what will unfold. Every state and experience comes through like it always has but it holds onto nobody and therefore fades rather quickly. Before when thought would think something, there was a belief that there was an I there thinking that thought and therefore that is my opinion/preference. Since it was believed to be my opinion/preference, it was referred to by thought quite often and repeated everytime someone would ask my opinion about that certain topic.
Now the opinion/preference flows with changing colors, sometimes they repeat themselves as if there is someone there hanging onto it as theirs and sometimes not. It doesn't matter either way because nobody is choosing what will unfold. Sometimes there is a focus of thought trying to focus on nobody being there and other times thought doesn't seem to care but there is no control either way, so there is no seriousness in it. Whatever comes out, rather the illusion of someone being here or not, it is what it is without control. Even if control is seen to be there, then that is used while it lasts or not. All things are going to change anyhow, so no reason to try to change it. Sometimes trying to change things happen and sometimes there is a thought of trying to control that aspect of not controlling, but it's laughable. Sometimes it is serious but that doesn't last either. There is no solidity to the seriousness even if there seems to be. It's all happening and it will all stop happening evenually for this finite life, so it not mattering seems to arise a lot in the forefront.
Where is all this heading anyhow? What is to be gained or lost, when nobody is there ot gain anything or lose anything? What is being lost at death, when there is (and never was) anybody there? How are all these experiences going to add up to anything compared to the infinite awareness you are? As an infinite being, what it is that you need? The very definition of infinite is needing nothing. If it needs something (anything) then it is not infinite. Infinite is infinite with or without 'anything else' (as if there were such a thing).
Sure you can better the conditioning of every body/mind and better planet Earth for a better life, but who is benefiting? Who is it being better for? The only reason to better it, is if it is believed to be better for somebody. Where does the bettering stop? When does it reach its best? If the best is ever reached, then what? It is the perceived problems that give this finite existence its juice and what allows the believed I-thought to existed as a person.
Yes it is confusing. When confusion is arises, nothing is known for sure and that is a very practical step to understanding that nothing needs to be understood. Nothing is ever or ever was known for sure anyhow, it was only believed to be known. People have this fascination with death because it is the unknown. Yet fail to realize that death is equal to life, life isn't and can't be known with any certainty either (since there is no knower to know it anyhow). It's a mystery that can't be solved because all paradoxes exist in it and as it.
